>> i see. >> stephen: now, the official classification for poor in the united states is a family of four with income under $22,000 a year. do you think that's poor? >> i think it's hard to live on that, actually. >> stephen: $22,000 a year. you could buy 110 xboxes. (laughter) >> yeah, well, you could... >> stephen: well, they seem to be spending all their money on that. >> how would you pay your rent then? you know, there are... i'm so interested in this report. there's six million people in this country whose only income is food stamps. only income is food stamps which is for that family that you were talking about, that's about 25% of the poverty line, that's all they have. so i don't know who's got all these xboxes. (laughter). >> stephen: you saw the stats. i mean, those are numbers, sir. >> yeah, those are numbers. >> stephen: are you saying that numbers are lying? >> oh! >> stephen: i don't see any... listen... (laughter). sir.